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    Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by P-E on Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:18 am

    I bought some weeks ago a strange PASGT Vest that has the particularity to be full green, not camouflaged. I never saw this variant until now. Seller sold it like a german flak vest. But I doubt it's because Germany has its own Flecktarn Flak Vest, secondly because the label is only in english (with a "01" in the NSN that means US military equipment),..

    Here're the information on the label :

    Medium
    Chest : From 37 to 41 IN.
    Stock no. : 8470-01-092-8499 (....-01-...-.... = US equipment)
    Nato Size : 7080/9404
    Body Armor, Fragmentation Protective Vest, Grond Troops
    DLA100-84-C-???? (look like 0323 or 0326 or 0329 - maybe something else)
    US Small Business Administration

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    Any help for identification is welcome !

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by Philip on Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:39 am

    The label is for a woodland camo PASGT vest. Same stock number.

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by CamoDeafie on Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:02 am

    I've only seen green PASGT vests in movies. Predator with Ahhnold Schwarzenegger; on Billy (the native american), and even then, we don;t know if its legit. I thought I saw them on USN guys; but my Navy SEALS book with info on the Special Boat teams; shows camo PASGT vests;
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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by ladrang on Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:21 am

    I have no idea WHO wear it, but it could be use by Police Forces, just my 2 cents Wink

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by John Brown on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:10 am

    CamoDeafie wrote:I've only seen green PASGT vests in movies. Predator with Ahhnold Schwarzenegger; on Billy (the native american), and even then, we don;t know if its legit. I thought I saw them on USN guys; but my Navy SEALS book with info on the Special Boat teams; shows camo PASGT vests;
    I'm afraid you're out of sync with time.

    Predator came out before the PASGT system.

    Billy wore a Vietnam-era vest in that movie:

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by CamoDeafie on Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:44 pm

    John Brown wrote:
    CamoDeafie wrote:I've only seen green PASGT vests in movies. Predator with Ahhnold Schwarzenegger; on Billy (the native american), and even then, we don;t know if its legit. I thought I saw them on USN guys; but my Navy SEALS book with info on the Special Boat teams; shows camo PASGT vests;
    I'm afraid you're out of sync with time.

    Predator came out before the PASGT system.

    Billy wore a Vietnam-era vest in that movie:

    it came out in 1987. I own the DVD; and in several scenes, the front of the armor matches the PASGT system, yet the back matches the VN system
    although looking at the armor closely in the pictures on the web, I concur it is a VN vest as well, its missing the snaps and shoulder pieces.....like I said, I;ve only seen the green vests in movies, Predator was simply the first one that came to my mind. to be fair, they didnt wear ERDLs either; they wore the WOodland BDUs in the movie as well; and if i recall correctly; the PASGT vests came out right after the introduction of the "M1981" woodland BDUs. and in the picture P-E provided, the DLA number says 84 in it. my woodland version has 83 contract on it; the era is correct for Predator to have had PASGT vests; they simply didn't have one on hand; just the flak jacket from 1960s and 70s.
    i still cannot find information or pictures of the solid greens other than the navy flak jacket in grayish green with black parts...

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by John Brown on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:13 pm

    You'll have to forgive my sense of time.

    I was in the military at the time and did not see a PASGT vest while stationed in Germany, nor when we deployed to Desert Shield / Desert Storm, though other "higher priority" units had them there.

    My unit was issued ancient Vietnam-era flak vests (mine was promptly laid over the passenger seat in our HMMWV [As vehicle commander, I did not want the battery box {located under the passenger seat} taking a round and exploding into my bottom]).

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by CamoDeafie on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:23 pm

    John Brown wrote:You'll have to forgive my sense of time.

    I was in the military at the time and did not see a PASGT vest while stationed in Germany, nor when we deployed to Desert Shield / Desert Storm, though other "higher priority" units had them there.

    My unit was issued ancient Vietnam-era flak vests (mine was promptly laid over the passenger seat in our HMMWV [As vehicle commander, I did not want the battery box {located under the passenger seat} taking a round and exploding into my bottom]).

    I'm curious, which unit were you in?

    my dad was in the National Guard and Reserves for most of my life; and he told me that his group never got the body armor, but were trained in them whenever he went to Bragg and Fort Monmouth for training exercises; it does seem to be a case of priority units getting them earlier; an USMC vet from Grenada and DS sold me his kit that he had worn to Desert Storm, but did not have chocolate chip uniform until afterwards; as he was not in the frontline; but rather part of the engineers and mechanics working on the LTVs

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by John Brown on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:39 pm

    CamoDeafie wrote:
    I'm curious, which unit were you in?
    I was a medic serving with Company F, 4th Support Battalion, 1st Armored Division.

    1st through 3rd Support BNs supported 1st through 3rd Brigades, but we supported the whole division (including 1st through 3rd SBs).
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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by Recon369 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:55 pm

    It could be one of the ones Canada bought. They were OD green and the 1984 contract date is about the right time frame for our first Modern BV. These were followed by the British Combat body Armour L/W Mk 1 in GF 1. After this we developed our own used in Bosnia. (2 versions of which are posted elsewhere in this forum)
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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by P-E on Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:28 pm

    Thanks for your response on this one ! To be honest, this is still unknown. I saw a second one in Germany, exactly the same one, also with green non camouflaged camo...Mine also come from Germany.

    About Canada, the only pictures we found showing PASGT vest in use, all the vests shown are camouflaged, the same for IDF (Israel). So maybe you've right, but sadly I was not able to confirm this information...

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by Recon369 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:41 pm

    Prior to the PASGT we also used the M1952A [T52], M1967 & M1969 Fragmentation Protective Body Armor, and the 1975 ICM [Improved Conventional Munitions Vest] M1969.
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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by Recon369 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:47 pm

    From my understanding we had both, the Woodland Camo ones were the first ones purchased as an interm item.
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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by Recon369 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:52 pm

    As for coming from Germany thats entirly possible our last issue PASGT helmets didn,t come home they were left in Bosnia. All painted UN Blue.

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    Re: Green unicolor PASGT Flak Vest

    Post by ubershave on Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:28 pm

    I saw one in a pawn shop a little while back.

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