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    Post by NDRanger Sat May 24, 2014 11:03 am

    Hey guys, I will be shipping to basic training in the next couple weeks and I wanted to know if those of you who have served have any advice and if anyone has any questions that I can attempt to answer when I get back(what we get issued and such).

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    Post by jimmyduncan23 Sat May 24, 2014 7:04 pm

    what for the air farce, army navy or marines? cant comment on US basic as I have been threw aussie one only, but the sky is purple
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    Post by NDRanger Sat May 24, 2014 9:44 pm

    jimmyduncan23 wrote:what for the air farce, army navy or marines? cant comment on US basic as I have been threw aussie one only, but the sky is purple

    For the army I'm with the North Dakota National Guard.
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    Post by Darktrooper Mon May 26, 2014 6:36 pm

    NDRanger wrote:Hey guys, I will be shipping to basic training in the next couple weeks and I wanted to know if those of you who have served have any advice and if anyone has any questions that I can attempt to answer when I get back(what we get issued and such).

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    Post by NDRanger Mon May 26, 2014 10:20 pm

    Thanks dark the Recruit Training Company made a point to drill in the mouth shut ears and eyes open thing.
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    Post by RedLegGI Mon May 26, 2014 10:34 pm

    NDRanger wrote:Thanks dark the Recruit Training Company made a point to drill in the mouth shut ears and eyes open thing.

    Going in as National Guard you WILL be picked on by drill sergeants. At Fort Sill they called ya'll "Nasty Girls" (NG) when they needed to separate you from the regular Army. There are only 3 things you need to know about the Army, and you'll be golden the rest of your career:

    1. Right time
    2. Right place
    3. Right uniform.

    If you have all of those taken care of, you're set.

    Basic will be exciting and its crazy how you go from one week to the next because the week you're in is 'the hardest' but the next week when you look back you go "Damn that was really easy." Just do what you're told, try to police up your battle buddies when they're fucked up, and don't be afraid to lead.
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    Post by NDRanger Mon May 26, 2014 11:01 pm

    Thanks redleg, I already get crap from a lot of my buddies who were active duty for going guard so that I'm pretty used to it.
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    Post by Ben Tue May 27, 2014 8:59 pm

    I'm sure army is different than air force, but the basic concepts are similar: Eyes and ears open, head down, and mouth shut unless spoken to.

    Like Darktrooper said: Attention to detail is key. You're always being watched, whether you know it or not. For example: I was made dorm chief on the first day of basic because my instructor glimpsed that I knew how to adjust my cover and properly blouse my trousers! Laughing

    Best of luck!


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    Post by msmith275 Tue May 27, 2014 11:20 pm

    Hi NDRanger, First of all, thank you very much for your service. It is greatly appreciated and respected by many veterans and civilians alike. Stick with it, because no matter how it turns out, no one will ever be able to take this experience away from you and you will have earned the right to be called a veteran. Speaking of earning things, I'd get rid of the Ranger in NDRanger in any social media stuff while you are at training. It's cool on forums and airsoft teams but your not going to cosplay. No video game. What you are doing is real. In any service, if you claim something that has not been earned, trouble will follow. Last - I'll pass on the same advice my Dad gave me. It served me very well on countless occasions. "Keep every piece of paper they ever give you. Everything else you'll figure out on your own."

    Best of luck!

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    Post by NDRanger Tue May 27, 2014 11:36 pm

    The ranger is based upon the fact that my collecting interests center on the 75th ranger regiment at no time have I ever claimed to be a member of the 75th or to be ranger qualified.
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    Post by MyZone Wed May 28, 2014 10:14 pm

    I'll add my two cents for good advise on basic. I went back in 1987 (Army Infantry)....


    All the previous comments are dead on, but I'll add a few:

    1) Don't look a DI in the eyes unless you are speaking to one or he is talking to you....it will draw unwanted attention.
    2) Stay away from guys that are screwing up....it will draw unwanted attention.
    3) Don't laugh out load if it is not the right time (funny stuff will be happening all the time in the chaos)....it will draw unwanted attention.
    4) It you are in good running shape....volunteer to carry the guide arm (platoon or company flag) during the PT runs....it will draw WANTED attention. Don't do it if you are out of shape - you will regret it.
    5) Don't be afraid to assume roles of responsibility; you are there to grow as a person, but choose wisely what you volunteer for....

    Remember that it is only basic training. Hundreds of thousands have been there and many more to come.....it will be a breeze. Good Luck !

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    Post by NDRanger Wed May 28, 2014 10:17 pm

    Thanks my zone I think the last note is the most important for me to keep in mind beacuse as of now its hard to see past basic.
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    Post by bryanbg Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:22 am

    Don't you listen to any of these people.



    Drill Sergeants love it when young recruits show initiative and strength of character!   Loudly proclaim your physical prowess and challenge any of them to "just try and smoke me!"  Trust me, they'll respect the hell out of you for it and won't hassle you like the "sheep" who just stood quietly.

    Also, hands in your pockets is a highly regarded attribute among your Drill Sergeants, as this demonstrates your casual and calm demeanor.  Strutting with your hands in your pockets (otherwise known in the Army as "Air Force gloves") shows your superiors that you're relaxed and in charge.

    "Smoke 'em if you've got them!" - Although the cadre at your training center will try to convince you that you're not allowed to smoke in and around the training facilities and Soldier's barracks, generally they're pretty much just being lazy and don't want to have to clean up after you.  You can smoke any time you want, the Drill Sergeants really don't mind.  In fact they'll mark you as one of the sharp ones who weren't fooled by these "fake rules!"

    You're allowed at least one morning to sleep in per week - as you see fit to take it.  While I'm quite sure that the cadre will tell you that you'll be required to rise early each morning at designated times, the Army allows training recruits one "sleep-in pass" per 7-day cycle.  Easy to use if on a particular morning you're still pretty tired.  Just tell your Squad Leader that you're taking that particular morning off, and that you'll catch up with them later in the morning.  Its not uncommon for the Senior Drill Sergeant to double check on you afterwards (they're concerned about your health and state of mind as well, and often visit to see if you require anything).

    It is customary for each training unit to have one "Senior" Drill Sergeant, appointed to oversee the more junior Drill Sergeants.  I'm going to spill a closely-guarded secret here and clue you in to the fact that the "Senior" Drill Sergeant is generally a political appointee, and usually a member of the North American Man Boy Love Association.  They are not allowed (by law) to admit to this.  However, if you tell your "Senior" Drill Sergeant that you have a romantic affinity for young Asian boys - whether true or not - he'll take it as a sign of trust and mutual respect, and he'll ensure that your tenure with your Basic Training unit goes smoothly.  Don't be surprised if he acts dismayed or disgusted ... this is simply a ruse to see if you're being sincere with him.  In the end you'll be well taken care of.

    You'll receive instruction on the nuances which define the differences between those called "Commissioned Officers" and those referred to as "Non-commissioned Officers."  Some wear fancy stripes as to define their rank and standing amongst his peers, while others will insist on adorning their uniforms with accoutrements such as bars, oak leaves - or in rare cases eagles and even stars.  Don't be fooled by these "tricksters!"  Your Drill Sergeants will attempt practical jokes in trying to convince you that those uniformed personnel displaying bars, oak leaves, eagles and stars are to be called "Sir" and rendered a hand salute when encountered.  Trust me, each training cycle the Drill Sergeants carefully observe those trainees who actually salute and refer to any of them as "Sir" and later share a delightful laugh over it!  In reality a hearty "thumbs up" and a smile is all you need render.  It is often the case where the "officer" attempts to berate the young trainee who fails to salute or offer "proper" title and/or greeting.  This is actually a test of your susceptibility to falling for such infantile pranks.  Remain firm and continue to smile.

    You will receive training in several topics, such as first aid, military history and the use of military firearms.  During classroom instruction is customary to stand up and declare "That's what SHE said!" at some point during the instructor's presentation.  Your instructors will be waiting for that one student who has the courage to speak up.  Not only will your statement garner appreciative humor on the part of the instructor, the moment of levity will be a morale booster for your peers.  Its also generally the resultant custom that you and your peers will have the opportunity to stretch out those tired and achy muscles via a therapeutic activity known as the "front leaning rest" - and it is indeed quite restful.

    Meals (or "chow" in the military vernacular) tend to get hectic, which is understandable with large numbers of trainees attempting to balance meal time with morning scheduled activities.  If you find yourself pressed for time its quite alright to advance yourself to the head of the chow line.  Your fellow trainees will understand, after all at one point or another most will find this necessary.  As long as you don't employ this tactic more than three times per week, you'll not be seen as being rude.

    Take extra long showers.  Your fellow trainees won't mind - each of them will do this whenever possible.  Also bear in mind that the U.S. Army stores vast reserves of water on each installation, which must get used, else it stagnates.

    At some point during your tenure at Basic Training, don't be at all surprised if your fellow barracks mates decide to throw you a "blanket party!"  This time-honored tradition has long been a special rite of passage to our young Soldiers, which is a demonstration of your peer's respect and admiration for you.  Should you inadvertently discover that you are to be the recipient of this special event, remain ignorant of it lest you spoil the surprise for your buddies.

    In the end, basic training is really all about having fun and meeting new people!  Enjoy!



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    Post by Grey Marine82 Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:29 am

    Stay motivated and give 110% at whatever job you are assigned! Never went through Army basic but did go through PI with the Corps! Remember, they can kill ya, but they want eat ya!Stay motivated!
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    Post by Static line Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:43 am

    I'll second the above comment.. "Ranger" in your screen name reeks of poser now that you are a uniformed service member.

    BCT/AIT/OSUT; close your mouth and do as you are told. Its all rather easy, and you get paid to work out. Enjoy it for what it is.
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    Post by airborne1968 Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:51 pm

    Volunteer for all the leader positions. Basic Training is the place for trial and error and you'll learn a lot about your leadership style and how to deal with different personalities.
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    Post by Static line Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:53 pm

    Try and remember that Basic Training is the easiest and least demanding training program anywhere in the Armed Forces. That should be a good azimuth check and allow for some soul searching.

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