In fact, there's some difference between both LWH and PASGT.

External, there's only 1 difference between PASGT and LWH ;



The big difference is these two screws that are present in PASGT to attach the chin strap.

Color of paints is not a good indicator to differenciate a LWH and a PASGT. I explain me ;



On this picture, you can see an original LWH (left) and an original PASGT (right). We can easy recognize the screw for chin strap on PASGT Helmet and there's also a difference of color of paints for both model.

But the problem is that color of paints isn't a good indicator because ;



On this picture, you have TWO original PASGT. They have their original paints too. As you can see, they both have a different color. On left, you have a "lightweight PASGT" (= rare). On right, you have a "normal PASGT" (= common).

As you can see on this picture, they both have screw. In fact, there's small difference between these two PASGT models ;

1. the lightweight model has, as his name indicate it : a light weight...
2. the lightweight model has a 3 point chin strap / normal PASGT have only a 2 point chin strap.
3. Label differs (only on the rear, near the neck) for the normal PASGT / Two different labels for lightweight PASGT.

Here's now picture of interior of lightweight PASGT ;



On this picture, you can easy see the three point chin strap (2 on sides and also 1 on rear).

Now, here's the interior of the "normal PASGT" ;



You can see on this picture the chin strap in TWO points.

First label on the lightweight PASGT Helmet (on rear)



You can read ;

"PASGT Helmet
Lightweight
LARGE
Specialty Defense Prod"

Second label inside Lightweight PASGT helmet ;



You can read ;

"SPP inc
Dunmore, PA
Made in the USA"

Here's the label of the normal PASGT Helmet ;



And here're the labels for LWH (OD first and second Tan) ;

Now, for the INSIDE, there's some difference between LWH and PASGT.

1. The liner
2. Labels inside (on a print paper for LWH / print directly on kevlar for PASGT)
3. Difference between manufacturer (only GENTEX for LWH / for PASGT there's : UNICOR , GENTEX, Specialty Product,...).

Here's the inside of PASGT (normal / non Lightweight) :



Here's the inside for Lightweight PASGT Helmet ;



Here's the liner for the first model of LWH (so not with pads) ;



Here's the inside of upgraded LWH (with PADS - I personaly call it MCCH to differenciate it of LWH with liner) :



As it, you can see all difference between PASGT and LWH, for all models, inside and external.

Hope this helps,

P-E

Nice comparison. Thanks!

Very nice, thumbs up.

But didn't you copied some of information from the link from USMF I gave you? At least this explanation is much more clearer!

Mercenary25 wrote:Very nice, thumbs up.

But didn't you copied some of information from the link from USMF I gave you? At least this explanation is much more clearer!

No, I do not use. I just see the link you give me, but I don't agree with them because they think there's two indicators to differenciates the PASGT and LWH ;

1. screw for chin strap
2. color (as you told me).

But as I demonstrate you, this second condition is wrong. In fact, they forgotten the Lightweight PASGT Helmet that have the same color than LWH (OD).

--> that the reason why I explain the only one difference of the external of PASGT and LWH is the SCREW, NO color.

Also the interior color of LWHs is much greener than the PASGT color which is more brownish.

Yes, you've right Philip. Kevlar fiber is greener for LWH.

I don't know why. Maybe because of difference of age ? Maybe kevlar fiber color change with time ?

But you've right, it's well another difference.

Okay, quick question... are the LWH suspensions system be compatible inside a PASGT?

Would it be possible to put an LWH suspension system into a PASGT helmet?

Yes, without problem. There's some airsofter who do that because LWH is rarest (ans so more expensive) than PASGT. So yes, you can easy do that. You can remove the liner inside PASGT and replace it by a LWH liner (including whin strap).

Hey Arch, I really like this helmet. Just little advice, place the cover loops behind the sweatband.

And yes, it is quite common for soldiers to upgrade the suspension system on their K-pots in early OEF/OIF, especially 2003-2004 before Army adopt MICH/ACH as issue item.

Really good ! I'm happy to see pictures of your. And can you show us pictures without cover ?

What I know, is that these chin strap were made by gentex for experimentation. They tested 3 and 4 points chin straps. First, PASGT only have a two points chin straps. Then they did some experimentations : replace chin strap on old PASGT, as your, and tests others helmets, as mine. And then, USMC adopted a X-strap with 4 points and later US Army adopted an H-strap 4 points.

And I've a question about your helmet cover. The two black squares, are they velcro ? They don't look like reflective material (as IR). Maybe I've wrong, it's because of picture...

Hello everybody,

I don't know if one of you bid on the helmet on this link....

http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260626834171&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (# 260626834171)

...but if it's yes, you'd better remove your bid ! This helmet is a PASGT helmet, modified to a LWH (liner, chin strap,...). So value is only for the differents parts separately, not for an original LWH.

Here's two picture from the auction to confirm what I explain :





And the description of seller can also confirm what I tell : "EXCELLENT CONDITION KEVAR HELMET MADE BY GENTEX(NOT LIGHT WEIGHT VERSION) SIZE MEDIUM - 3. LINER SIZE MEDIUM. CHIN STRAP SIZE MEDIUM TO LARGE. DIGITAL CAMOUFLAGE USMC COVER IS SIZE MEDIUM / LARGE".

Here's the sort of helmet I call "fake for collector". This sort of helmet were never used by usmc as it : they well used PASGT (with it's original chin strap), and they well issued LWH, but NOT a mix of them ! To be more exact, PASGT were not upgraded to LWH, they were changed. And the manufacturer Gentex isn't a proof of authenticity : this manufacturer produces LWH (the only manufacturer !) but also produced PASGT.

Well, my objective is just to critize an auction from a powerseller ebayer and to prevent you do not bid on this fake helmet. I just tell it because there's other original LWH on ebay for lesser price. This one is currently at $102,50. For a "fake" helmet, it's really expensive ! So just take care if one of you bid on this one.

Hope this helps.

P-E