Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

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    Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by nkomo on Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:13 pm

    Need some help on these fellows. I picked these two plates up recently at Ft. Bragg for the sum of $10. I am not sure what these are for . I had originally thought it may have been for the RBA, but Pierre says they never used metal plates in the RBA's. So......I am at a loss. Any help would be greatly appreciated. These plates have no markings that I can see. They are made out of a very heavy metal type materal and they weigh a TON.
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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by Mercenary25 on Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:17 pm

    Honestly, I would have guessed RBA but since P-E said he never seen metal plates in RBA vests.

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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by nkomo on Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:16 pm

    That is what I thought as well, Merc.

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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by Mercenary25 on Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:18 pm

    Like you suggested, it might could be aluminum oxide. If it is indeed "AO" then it's earliest RBA plates.

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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by P-E on Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:53 pm

    The RBA plates have a special form. The back plate is lightly courbed.

    Here's picture of both plates ;

    Front :





    Back :




    As you can see, it's write "DO NOT DROP" on my plates. But it isn't write on all RBA plates. So this words aren't a reference for us to ID your plates.

    This model of front plate was already worn during Somalia war, in 1993. It was this model with "cut angle". Why cut ? Because it's better to use weapons. And as you can see, each model of current SAPI plates have this cut angle.

    The back plate have a special slice form. It's not completly flat, there's a small slope. I'll try to find you a picture (I sold my plates, so I can't take a picture of it, but I know someone that have them).

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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by nkomo on Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:56 pm

    Any idea on what these plates are for?

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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by P-E on Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:47 pm

    Hum, at this time no. Problem is that there's some and some different body armor and plates. Metal was used as ballistic material, but was then replaced by ceramic (in Vietnam war, the pilot and aircrew already had ceramic/glass fiber plates in their Chicken Plates body armor) because this one offer best protection and less risk of hurt : ceramic fractures and retains bullets / metal bend and deforms, so there's some additionnal risks to hurt the body.

    I'm not sure...to be honest I've no idea. But it's not exclude it's for the RBA, but in this case it's an earlier model that only serves for experimentation or training. In combat situation, they only used ceramic plates. I'm almost sure of that.

    But I'll do some research for your plates and I'll tell you.

    Well, I just find an old picture of a back plate for the RBA, with that, you can see the slope I try to explain ;



    this is the real back plate for the RBA, the one in ceramic. You can see the form of this plate. Is your like this ?


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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by nkomo on Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:36 pm

    Yep....one of the plates is defiitely contoured similar to RBA plate in last picture. I also thought it was odd to find a metal plate as well.

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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by JKin on Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:12 am

    Is it possible that these were handmade by an individual? I know that sounds kinda silly, but these are unlike anything Ive personally seen.

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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by nkomo on Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:04 am

    Honestly....anything is possible. All I can tell you is they came from a surplus dealer in Ft. Bragg. They are extremely heavy and have been used quite heavily.

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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by pwmiraldi67 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:06 am

    P-E wrote:The RBA plates have a special form. The back plate is lightly courbed.

    Here's picture of both plates ;

    Front :





    Back :




    As you can see, it's write "DO NOT DROP" on my plates. But it isn't write on all RBA plates. So this words aren't a reference for us to ID your plates.

    This model of front plate was already worn during Somalia war, in 1993. It was this model with "cut angle". Why cut ? Because it's better to use weapons. And as you can see, each model of current SAPI plates have this cut angle.

    The back plate have a special slice form. It's not completly flat, there's a small slope. I'll try to find you a picture (I sold my plates, so I can't take a picture of it, but I know someone that have them).


    These are for the RBA ranger Body Armor, I use to have these for my early RBA very cool
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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by nkomo on Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:08 am

    Paul,
    Are you talking about the ones P-E posted or the ones I posted? Thanks!
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    Re: Metal Plates for an Unknown Vest

    Post by P-E on Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:25 am

    I have an idea...it can be for a coutermine set (light set) called Body Armor Set, Individual Countermine (BASIC).

    Here's the description of someone on USMF : "Ballistic Body Armor 10 Piece set. Several sets available. Consist of the following: Helmet Cover, 1/4" Face Shield Riot, Ballistic Colar, Vest with metal chest plate, Upper Right & Left Arm. Lower Right & Left Arm, Antifragramination Trousers, Groin Pouch with Metal Plate".

    Here's picture of the set ;









    In fact, there's not some metal plates used currently, so the number of body armor that contains that sort of metal plates is realy reduced. Well, it's an hypothesis...but it can be it...

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