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    Headgear with arabic & english

    Post by P-E on Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:25 pm

    Here's some of my arabic/english hats and caps. I real love them !







    I also have a ACU boonie hat with arabic, but I haven't the time to take a picture.

    This sort of personalization where common during 2004-2005 on DCU uniforms. A friend of me, that's french and that goes in Iraq as contractor (not military, but to embroidered patches in military bases) told me that the US central command began to be mad because there's some and some fantastic uniforms that appears (it was fashion for soldiers to personalize their own uniforms). So the US CentCom began to limitate this sort of personnalization and now he told me that soldiers can bought souvenir from Iraq for their return home, but not add arabic name on their real equipment (jacket, hats, caps,...) during deployment time.

    So I had some chance to find one in ACU, it's probably one of the last produced with arabic. affraid

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    Post by AndrewA74 on Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:39 am

    Nice hats. I have one like that but only it doesn't have english on it, just arabic. Just a heads up, the boonie is backwards, the name goes to the rear.
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    Post by Misanthropic_Gods on Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:28 am

    here is mine, I just picked this up late last week
    Its a Tru-Spec (non-issue) Boonie




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    Post by pwmiraldi67 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:02 am

    very very cool!!!
    Id like one please!!!

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    Post by P-E on Sat May 08, 2010 6:31 pm

    Here's two more in my collection ;









    And the other one, rarest because in ACU camouflage, but 'problem' is that it's a private purchase, not issue ;








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    Re: Headgear with arabic & english

    Post by AndrewA74 on Sun May 09, 2010 3:32 am

    Don't worry, private purchase stuff is quite common especially on embriodered stuff. My ABU Boonie that's embriodered is commercial and I know it's legit.
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    Post by Misanthropic_Gods on Sun May 09, 2010 7:01 am

    My embroidered boonie is commercial too, no worries!

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    Post by P-E on Sun May 09, 2010 8:25 am

    No, I've no doubt on it, I know it's legit. There's some metal rank marks. But I prefer have an issued... Smile

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    Post by AndrewA74 on Sun May 09, 2010 3:50 pm

    P-E wrote:No, I've no doubt on it, I know it's legit. There's some metal rank marks. But I prefer have an issued... Smile

    A lot of the guys will buy commercial. Especially because they have to turn in most of thier stuff at the end of a deployment. Guys will buy commercial stuff and it gets recirculated through the system while they keep thier own.
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    Post by bhmilitarycollector84 on Mon May 10, 2010 2:42 am

    when my budy came back from iraq they let him keep all his stuff , all but his m4 and his 9 mm ,
    and batteries,

    i got 2 tuff storge footlogers full of stuff from him and a buffle bag full , it was crazy the stuff that was in there , and alot of it was brand new , he never used


    all your hats are very nice

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    Post by AndrewA74 on Tue May 11, 2010 12:05 am

    bhmilitarycollector84 wrote:when my budy came back from iraq they let him keep all his stuff , all but his m4 and his 9 mm ,
    and batteries,

    i got 2 tuff storge footlogers full of stuff from him and a buffle bag full , it was crazy the stuff that was in there , and alot of it was brand new , he never used


    all your hats are very nice

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    Interesting. I've heard from several shop ownera around Bragg that they collect the stuff. How long ago was this?
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    Post by nkomo on Tue May 11, 2010 2:12 am

    What the Army makes you turn back in is dependent on the person who is in charge of the inventory. Some units want it ALL turned back in, while others only make you turn in minimal amount of stuff.

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    Post by bhmilitarycollector84 on Tue May 11, 2010 2:42 am

    i bought all the stuff from him last year, i think he was in in 2004 or 2005 , he had acu's

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    Post by RICH S on Wed May 12, 2010 9:08 pm

    These hats are great, i can see this sort of thing becoming very rare to find soon.
    Got a DCU jacket with some Arabic below the name tape, it took me ages to find one. Love the hats though very nice collection P-E.

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    Re: Headgear with arabic & english

    Post by P-E on Wed May 12, 2010 9:42 pm

    RICH S wrote:
    Got a DCU jacket with some Arabic below the name tape, it took me ages to find one. Love the hats though very nice collection P-E.


    thanks, and yes, I had some chance..I found 2 of them for realy low price...(around $7)...Please, can you show us your uniform with arabic ??? I also have one, but missing name tape in english Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad (I know the name of soldier, but it's bad the name tape was remove Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad ) :







    All other patches are original and never remove. I'm realy mad for the name tape...

    And here's pictures of soldier who worn arabic uniforms (directly embroidered) :

    Look, this uniform is realy beautiful, with full theater made patch. And especialy, this guys is from US Postal !!! Picture taken in Iraq.



    and here's other picture with name tape in arabic (not directly embroidered on jacket) :





    (see General Wells, on the left)







    And now, arabic personalzation of hats and caps ;







    I searched during some and some time on internet to find these pictures...realy rare to see ! If you have other, do not hesitate to show and I'll add them in my picasaweb album (see : http://picasaweb.google.com/militariabelgium/)

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    Post by RICH S on Wed May 12, 2010 9:45 pm

    No problem P-E, i will try to take a photo and post it tomorrow.

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    Re: Headgear with arabic & english

    Post by RICH S on Thu May 13, 2010 4:51 pm

    Here you go mate,





    Name tapes look theatre made??

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    Post by Mercenary25 on Thu May 13, 2010 4:57 pm

    Rich, Andrew is an expert of it, he would be able to say if it's theatre made. Based on my non-expertise view, I think it's theatre made because no issue name tapes have woven-like material as this one. All of Arabic names are theatre made and the name tapes look alike to it.

    Nice DCU!

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    Post by P-E on Thu May 13, 2010 6:11 pm

    BEAUTIFUL !!! I love it. And yes, it's theater made. You've some chance, it's realy beautiful !! Do you have any picture of soldier wearing it ? I'll try to search it for you, it's easier to find pictures of officers than enlisted ! Very Happy

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    Post by RICH S on Thu May 13, 2010 8:08 pm

    P-E wrote:BEAUTIFUL !!! I love it. And yes, it's theater made. You've some chance, it's realy beautiful !! Do you have any picture of soldier wearing it ? I'll try to search it for you, it's easier to find pictures of officers than enlisted ! Very Happy


    Dont have any pictures of anyone wearing it, not too good on the internet to be honest, the first picture i ever posted on a forum was here. Laughing
    Would be very interesting if you could find something.

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    Post by AndrewA74 on Thu May 13, 2010 8:26 pm

    Most definitly theatre made! Good jacket!
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    Re: Headgear with arabic & english

    Post by P-E on Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:47 am

    Here's two more ;











    this one is a US Navy. It's the first time I see one 8 points cap with embroidery on it. Bought it on ebay, from an Italian seller. It's strange, because there's name "ELLY" on rear of cap, and a second name inside (pen writed) : "WIDMER". How can we explain it ? Is Widmer a name and Elly Family name ? Or Elly the name and Widmer family name ?








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    Post by Misanthropic_Gods on Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:05 am

    In the Navy, camouflage is organizational gear and therefore used only by people who are deployed to the gulf, and then turned in after the tour is over. Im guessing Widmer was the name of the person who it was first issued to, then turned it back into Supply, then Elly was issued it when he/she was deployed and got it embroidered

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    Post by P-E on Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:22 pm

    Here's my current collection of them ;



    It misses one I wait to receive. It's a boonie with black embroidery (name in english and arabic).

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    Post by AndrewA74 on Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:49 pm

    Misanthropic_Gods wrote:In the Navy, camouflage is organizational gear and therefore used only by people who are deployed to the gulf, and then turned in after the tour is over. Im guessing Widmer was the name of the person who it was first issued to, then turned it back into Supply, then Elly was issued it when he/she was deployed and got it embroidered

    Same idea here. I have this one navy BDU cap that has four names on the inside of it. So yes, thats the case.
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    Post by P-E on Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:53 pm

    Thanks for the informations guys ! But do you think it's the same for commercial items (= private purchase) ?

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    Post by AndrewA74 on Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:18 pm

    P-E wrote:Thanks for the informations guys ! But do you think it's the same for commercial items (= private purchase) ?

    Yes I think it's possible because a soldier must return the items given to him. A lot of folks will buy commercial and turn it in and it will be re-issued to another person.
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    Post by Philip on Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:41 pm

    Really? If I buy stuff from my own money I'd keep it...

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    Post by AndrewA74 on Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:10 pm

    Philip wrote:Really? If I buy stuff from my own money I'd keep it...

    Well if you bought stuff from your own money then it would be your's unless you kept the one you were issued, so you'de have to get one like it.
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    Post by P-E on Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:32 pm

    Ok ok, you've probably right. But what I find really strange, is that the clothes that are returned by soldier after their service was used by another soldier again... clothes are personnal (not as backpack or weapons). Moreover it's US Military, and DoD spent thousands billion dollars to equip its troops.

    So why not new personnal material (= jacket, trousers, headgears,...) for each soldier ? I just think it's strange. In 14-18,the french soldiers in no man's land had no news uniforms and took/received the uniforms from others dead soldiers for they own use. But current US Military is one of the biggest army, with a military industry really functionnal. Its first priority is comfort for deployed troops. But well, I know nothing about that, you've probably right. I just find it soo strange.

    What I though, is that they have to return back their personnal stuff, but it's not used again, but serves for training or burn as we saw on Iraq ;



    I can't imagine they are given to another soldier. Look strange. I do not say you've wrong (= I know nothing about that), it's just my personnal opinion. I think it too strange.

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