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    ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by JYN on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:52 pm

    Hello,

    What do you think of this helmet ?

    If it is a genuine russian helmet reissued to ANA ; how much you will spend on it, please ?

    Thank you in advance.

    Jean-Yves







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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by nkomo on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:11 pm

    I personally like it, Jean-Yves. Afghan items can be extremely hard to find and that certainly applies to the helmets. I have been collecting Afghan items since the soldiers started rotating back to the US and only have one Afghan helmet in my personal collection.

    As far as a price, I'd say anywhere between $100 to $150 (maybe more). That price would be higher with provenance. Just my thoughts.
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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by JYN on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:21 pm

    Hello Arch,

    What I know from the seller. It has been brought back by a french soldier. It seems that it was the kind of helmet which was issued before they received US gears.

    Thanks for your prompt reply. Just bought it for half of your bottom price postage included.

    French market is a bit quiet on ANA gears comparing to US....

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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by nkomo on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:30 pm

    Good to hear you picked it up, Jean-Yves. Rare piece and it will display nicely in your collection room. Very Happy
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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by JYN on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:32 pm

    Will post in the ANA section as soon as I will receive it.

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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by Zeked on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:18 pm

    Sure looks nice and legit. My question would be on what era it is from. Did the ANA use this format when the Soviets were there, was it once the Soviets left and before the Taliban took over or was it after 9/11 when the US/NATO and everyone else came to Afghanistan? I would be happy to have it in my collection that is for sure. Thanks Clete
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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by nkomo on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:35 pm

    Very good question, Clete. I am posting a link to the various flags that Afghanistan has used over the years.

    Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Afghanistan
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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by Mercenary25 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:20 pm

    Based on link Arch provided, it looks like pre-OEF piece however the emblem on sides are in fact, current ANA emblem. Not sure if this same emblem was used pre-OEF as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_National_Army

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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by Darktrooper on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:42 pm

    This could be from the soviet-backed afghan army from 1978 till 1990-ish time frame.

    One thing I noticed, is that emblem is bass-ackwards for current afghan markings, the black and red are reversed.


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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by JYN on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:28 am

    Darktrooper wrote:This could be from the soviet-backed afghan army from 1978 till 1990-ish time frame.

    One thing I noticed, is that emblem is bass-ackwards for current afghan markings, the black and red are reversed.

    Thank you all.

    I just found this precious site on the net

    http://brendonshelmets.weebly.com/afghanistan-ssh68.html

    and I am going to contact the owner and at the same time I am searching pictures references on the net.... we'll see...

    Clete you asked the write question.

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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by JYN on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:28 am


    Response I get :

    Dear Jean-Yves,

    The helmet you have is an older Soviet Ssh-40, my guess is that it is a helmet that has been left over from the Soviet occupation of the 1980's and reissued to the new Afghan Army, as was done with many countries after the Soviet Union broke up.
    In saying this it is very difficult to put a date as to when it may have been issued! There are too many types in service and with many different insignias. Most ex Soviet helmets in service with the ANA are the more recent Ssh60 & Ssh68's
    Sorry I could not be of more help, it is a very nice helmet though,

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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by Zeked on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:10 pm

    Nice of the Brandon to respond so quickly. Even not being able to track down the ear with more clarity it is still a great looking helmet that I would love to own. Nice find!
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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by Mercenary25 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:25 pm

    Yeah, disregard the era and mystery that we couldn't answer, it is a very nice lid.
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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by JYN on Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:47 pm

    Hello,

    I just received the helmet today and I am just adding few pictures to this post.

    By chance, if I am finding some pictures of ANA soldiers taken between 2002 and now with this kind of helmet, I will move it to the Afghanistan section.

    I quite like the Afghanistan colors on the front, quite patriotic way of showing that the soldier is proud of his country... kind of marking which is not present on helmet before the departure of russians from Afghanistan.

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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by Mercenary25 on Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:56 pm

    There are some photos of ANA soldiers wearing this type of helmet during the trainings however none of them has this paint.
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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by Easy Gee on Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:48 am

    Very nice Jean-Yves.

    It certainly has character, the markings in the the shell are standard Russian markings.

    If you check out this excellent French site you will perhaps gain more info on it's original origins, but not the Afghan usage of course.

    http://www.world-war-helmets.com/fiche.php?q=Casque-Russe-Ssh-40

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    Re: ANA Helmet ex ssh40

    Post by Red_Nek on Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:00 am

    Nice lid! These helmets were used by ANA after the Soviets departed their country. Before the SSh-40, they used the WW1 German M16, M17 & M18 helmets. The WW1 helmets were phased out but not entirely.

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