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    2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:01 pm

    This is a CUSTOM US MADE Patch that a Marine had made when he was an advisor to the Iraqi Army back in 2007-2008. It is a morale patch for the Iraqi Scout Sniper Platoon that he worked with. The patch reads: 2-1-7 (2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division) and says "Scout Sniper Platoon, Strength and Honor" in Arabic.

    It also includes the Jaguar, which is highly respected in Iraqi Culture, as well as a crossed Kalashnikov/Dragunov.

    The 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army was created in Baghdad in 2003, served in Ramadi from 2003-2007, and then served in Diwaniyah in 2008, Basra in 2008 and Al Kut in 2008-2009.




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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by zvez on Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:46 am

    Great patch!
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:58 am

    Thanks, Chris. I was really excited to be able to find these. I especially like that the MArine who had these is a member of MARSOC. I wish I could have afforded some of his gear as well. However, any MARSOC items go HIGH!

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by Iraqi Militaria on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:20 am

    That is a very nice patch do you have an extra for trade?

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    Iraqi Sniper Insignia

    Post by Iraqi Militaria on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:33 am



    Here is my Saddam Hussein Era Sniper Insignia from my collection.

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by ladrang on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:43 am

    Hi very nice patch, it always interessing to see others countries military stuff. Smile

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by Iraqi Militaria on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:54 am

    ladrang wrote:Hi very nice patch, it always interessing to see others countries military stuff. Smile

    I agree serving in Iraq has helped me build my collection.

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by ladrang on Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:09 pm

    Hi lorenzo I ve done the same thing Very Happy
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by zvez on Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:43 pm

    Having lots of friend serving in Iraq has really helped my collection! Wink

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    ladrang wrote:Hi very nice patch, it always interessing to see others countries military stuff. Smile

    I agree serving in Iraq has helped me build my collection.

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by Iraqi Militaria on Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:33 am

    zvez wrote:Having lots of friend serving in Iraq has really helped my collection! Wink

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    ladrang wrote:Hi very nice patch, it always interessing to see others countries military stuff. Smile

    I agree serving in Iraq has helped me build my collection.

    Lorenzo

    Chris do you still have all the Iraqi Army Unit Insignia I sold you during my last tour? I would love to see them displayed in an image.

    Thank you

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by zvez on Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:16 pm

    Are you talking about these? Alsohere's a link to a writeup on the various flag type patches

    http://z8.invisionfree.com/Iraq_militaria_forum/index.php?showtopic=1577

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    zvez wrote:Having lots of friend serving in Iraq has really helped my collection! Wink

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    ladrang wrote:Hi very nice patch, it always interessing to see others countries military stuff. Smile

    I agree serving in Iraq has helped me build my collection.

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    Chris do you still have all the Iraqi Army Unit Insignia I sold you during my last tour? I would love to see them displayed in an image.

    Thank you

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by Iraqi Militaria on Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:39 pm

    I wish it would let me view the link, I can not visit any of the Iraqi Militaria Forums.

    thank you for posting for others to share.

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by Iraqi Militaria on Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:40 pm

    Very Nice Set!!

    I am glad you still have them;)

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:03 am

    And so it begins.  An Ebay seller has been finding patches on our forum and is now reproducing them in an effort to screw the collector.  

     I'm sure if you look at his other products, you might see where he has copied patches you own as well.  This is my opinion on the matter.

    Link:   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iraq-Iraqi-Special-Forces-2nd-Battalion-1st-Brigade-7th-Special-Forces-Patch-/261682606632?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ced7fb228    





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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by msmith275 on Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:10 pm

    Man that sucks. At least you found the fake and we have right and wrong in the same post. Good job.

    Was that Marine training those snipers as a MARSOC job?

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:01 pm

    msmith275 wrote:Man that sucks.  At least you found the fake and we have right and wrong in the same post. Good job.

    Was that Marine training those snipers as a MARSOC job?

    Thanks,  Mark
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by msmith275 on Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:55 pm

    nkomo wrote:
    msmith275 wrote:Man that sucks.  At least you found the fake and we have right and wrong in the same post. Good job.

    Was that Marine training those snipers as a MARSOC job?

    Thanks,  Mark
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by Bird Child on Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:48 pm

    I have one just like this patch. I got it from a guy in MARSOC . I never post any of my patches I get because I'm afraid this would happen.

    Here it is for reference

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by BM on Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:37 pm

    Arch,
    Here's another reproduction of your patch.
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:36 pm

    Apparently, the this Ebay seller has filed a complaint on this forum saying he is a "REPUTABLE" dealer and that we were wrong to accuse him of any wrong doing.  LOL!  




    He says there is no "bases" (I think he meant BASIS) for our accusations, but I will let the forum members look at the pictures above and let them make their own decisions.  No doubt in my mind that the seller has reproduced this patch and many others off this forum and others.  This is my opinion on the matter.


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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:46 pm

    In case any of our members wish to see his latest turd, here it is.  He is getting better, but still not good enough.  


    I also strongly encourage our members to check his feedback on eBay and see what several other people have said about this "reputable" dealer.


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iraq-Iraqi-Special-Forces-Sniper-2nd-Battalion-1st-Brigade-7th-Division-Patch/251959263204?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34494%26meid%3D96400cee5bdc4f92922db43cf9d0451f%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D261682606632
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:59 pm

    I also encourage this Ebay seller to please weigh in on this subject as well.  We are open and honest on this forum and will listen to all opinions.   Please explain to us how you came by one of these RARE patches and why you are reproducing them without letting the collectors know they are fake.  


    Also, I'd love to hear how you managed to get so many Central and South American patches/ranks, when these are so uncommon?  I'm waiting for a response, but won't be holding my breath.


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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by msmith275 on Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:22 pm

    Hmmm... I don't know anything about epaulettes, but I just did a quick comparison and I think it's kind of odd that Kuwait, Iceland, Egypt and North Korean epaulettes have exactly the same dimensions, thread count and number of stitches. I really don't think Iceland and North Korea shop at the same epaulette store.

    There are a lot of really nice repos, but there are also remakes of bad remakes scattered throughout.

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by RedLegGI on Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:25 pm

    When you look at his patches you can see they all have the same 'look' about them. All off the same machine in my opinion. I'd love to see what miltrader has to say about this.

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by msmith275 on Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:30 pm

    I just looked at the SOTF-West patch:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Marine-Corp-Special-Operations-Task-Force-West-Patch-/251956805450?hash=item3aa9cbbf4a:g:Tt0AAOSwstxVTX2O

    The eagle is supposed to be carrying a big dark maroon "W" in it's right talon.  Uhh... no "W". That would be the "W" in "West". Details, details.....
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:33 pm

    msmith275 wrote:Hmmm... I don't know anything about epaulettes, but I just did a quick comparison and I think it's kind of odd that Kuwait, Iceland, Egypt and North Korean epaulettes have exactly the same dimensions, thread count and number of stitches.  I really don't think Iceland and North Korea shop at the same epaulette store.  

    There are a lot of really nice repos, but there are also remakes of bad remakes scattered throughout.  

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    If he would label them as repos, then there wouldn't be a problem.  However, what he has listed are exactly that.....repos, but yet fails to inform the buyer.  For him to come on to a collector centric board and say we are "slandering" him takes balls.  We are the people who can tell what is real versus what is reproduction......not a good idea to lodge a complaint here.  We can tear his arguments to shreds.  I will add that your posts did EXACTLY that.
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by nkomo on Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:35 pm

    RedLegGI wrote:When you look at his patches you can see they all have the same 'look' about them.  All off the same machine in my opinion.  I'd love to see what miltrader has to say about this.
      He copies our pictures and then makes repros of them using a sewing machine.  Very sneaky.

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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by msmith275 on Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:46 pm

    Well - it seems to me his own words are proof of his actions.  Here is verbatim what you wrote when you posted the original patch at the very start of this thread:

    "This is a CUSTOM US MADE Patch that a Marine had made when he was an advisor to the Iraqi Army back in 2007-2008. It is a morale patch for the Iraqi Scout Sniper Platoon that he worked with. The patch reads: 2-1-7 (2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division) and says "Scout Sniper Platoon, Strength and Honor" in Arabic.

    It also includes the Jaguar, which is highly respected in Iraqi Culture, as well as a crossed Kalashnikov/Dragunov."

    Now - here is the description off of the eBay listing for the remake:

    "This patch is a morale patch for the Iraqi Scout Sniper Platoon.  It was designed by a Marine who was the advisor to the Iraqi Army (07-08).
    The Arabic writing states: "Scout Sniper Platoon, Strength, and Honor"
    The rifles on the side are a Kalashnikov (automatic rifle) and the Dragunov (sniper rifle).
    The jaguar is a coveted Iraqi symbol."

    So unless you guys are consulting the same Iraqi 2-1-7 Wikipedia page, it appears pretty obvious that the wording from the seller's post came right from your own description.
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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by bond007a1 on Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:28 am

    here is my 2 cents....from the 2 examples of original patches....the level of detail is excellent, from the patches that the seller on ebay is selling... they could NOT look anymore different & the original manufacturer would NOT start making much less detailed versions than the originals.....


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    Re: 2nd Battalion, 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army Scout Sniper Platoon

    Post by Mercenary25 on Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:50 am

    That is the reason I never post my ODA patch collection.

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