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    Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by Easy Gee on Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:09 am

    Hi Guys.

    I thought I would share with you my B826 Tropentarn ( or is it Wustentarn?) cover.

    I dunno the date of this particular item, as it only has a size stamp in it, but it has seen some use somewhere in it's life,I am aware these B826 lids were introduced in 1992, so I assume this cover is the early version, as the later one's had, more foliage attachment points.

    But if anyone could shed some light on this cover's date usage that would be great, either way enjoy Wink





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    Re: Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by omaha on Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:14 pm

    Nice find gary

    For the name I would say it's wustentarn wüste= desert and tarn= camo

    Can you post pics of your helmet too? Wink

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    Re: Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:30 am

    omaha wrote:Nice find gary

    For the name I would say it's wustentarn wüste= desert and tarn= camo

    Can you post pics of your helmet too? Wink



    Thanks for looking mate,and for the info, I'm glad you like it Very Happy

    I find German camo classifications very confusing, there appears to be at least three diffent names out there, for german Desert camo.

    And Sorry perhaps my original post was not too clear, this is just the cover, I used a K-pot to display this cover in the pic, sadly I do not own a B826 YET, but it is on my wish list Wink


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    Re: Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by ladrang on Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:07 am

    Hi matt, your german cover is really a nice piece, I like german camo pattern.

    I m sure I m in the same situation as you, I have no knowledge about this pattern Crying or Very sad
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    Re: Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:40 am

    ladrang wrote:Hi matt, your german cover is really a nice piece, I like german camo pattern.

    I m sure I m in the same situation as you, I have no knowledge about this pattern Crying or Very sad



    Thanks Will, glad you like the cover, it goes well with my other German kit Wink
    I'm hoping someone here will be able to tell me something about it, knowledge is power Laughing


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    Re: Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by ladrang on Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:45 am

    I found this article on wiki, so I think it's the same terms:

    Bundeswehr Wüstentarn is a desert camouflage used by the Bundeswehr (German armed forces). It is the desert variant of Flecktarn and is also known as tropentarn, desert flecktarn, and fleck desert. Instead of the 5-color scheme of greens, brown, and black of temperate Flecktarn, it utilizes only three colors: a base color of khaki tan with medium brown and dark green spots.
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    Re: Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by Easy Gee on Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:45 pm

    ladrang wrote:I found this article on wiki, so I think it's the same terms:

    Bundeswehr Wüstentarn is a desert camouflage used by the Bundeswehr (German armed forces). It is the desert variant of Flecktarn and is also known as tropentarn, desert flecktarn, and fleck desert. Instead of the 5-color scheme of greens, brown, and black of temperate Flecktarn, it utilizes only three colors: a base color of khaki tan with medium brown and dark green spots.


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    Re: Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by Kirner on Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:03 pm

    ladrang wrote:I found this article on wiki, so I think it's the same terms:

    Bundeswehr Wüstentarn is a desert camouflage used by the Bundeswehr (German armed forces). It is the desert variant of Flecktarn and is also known as tropentarn, desert flecktarn, and fleck desert. Instead of the 5-color scheme of greens, brown, and black of temperate Flecktarn, it utilizes only three colors: a base color of khaki tan with medium brown and dark green spots.

    Well, there has been much confusion about the right designation of the different Bw camo's color schemes.
    The official designation of the standard Bw Camo color scheme is "5 Farben Tarndruck" (5 colors Camo). The camo color scheme used in Afghanistan is the "3-Farben Tarndruck", also called "Tropentarn".
    A third camo scheme in use is called "Wüstentarn". If you follow this link you'll find all 3 color schemes side by side at the third row.

    http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.twg-softair.de/images/howto/tarnmuster/tarn_germany_desert2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.twg-softair.de/howto/tarnmuster.htm&usg=__U0muvc7CIZPO0yaIEwa9M45uH4Q=&h=180&w=180&sz=7&hl=de&start=395&zoom=1&tbnid=uj11qbtlgGH1kM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=139&ei=LaZvTv3gFsv4sgaqy-H6Bg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dw%25C3%25BCstentarn%26start%3D244%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DqOE%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:de:official%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D638%26output%3Dimages_json%26tbm%3Disch&chk=sbg&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1132&vpy=234&dur=3349&hovh=144&hovw=144&tx=113&ty=80&page=19&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:395

    P.S.: Easy Gee, your helmet cover is a standard 3-Farben-Tarndruck (Tropentarn) one.
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    Post by MyZone on Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:33 pm

    Is that camo difficult to find?
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    Post by Kirner on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:51 pm

    MyZone wrote:Is that camo difficult to find?

    Which one?
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    Re: Tropentarn or Wustentarn cover!!

    Post by MyZone on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:54 pm

    Just in general....or is there one more rare than the others?

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    Post by Kirner on Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:27 pm

    MyZone wrote:Just in general....or is there one more rare than the others?

    Thanks

    The 5-Farben-Tarnfleck, worn here in Germany, is easy to find. The Wüstentarn is rather difficult to get. There are a few shops offering them online.
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    Post by MyZone on Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:11 pm

    I found this one in my collection:

    Hooded Parka....I don't know what the proper name for it is.

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    Post by MyZone on Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:18 pm

    I believe this is an after-market version (MIL-TEC) ruck.







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    Post by Kirner on Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:24 pm

    This kind of Parka is called "smock" over here. All pieces are 3-Farben-Tarndruck, Tropentarn. Nice stuff!
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    Post by jayacee on Fri May 18, 2012 2:13 am

    can i ask if this type of cammo ever saw use in the persian gulf i honestly dont know cheers james
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    Post by P-E on Fri May 18, 2012 4:45 am

    Not in Iraq (no German troops there !), but in Afghanistan well !



    If you want more pics, just search "bundeswehr afghanistan" on google


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    Post by jayacee on Fri May 18, 2012 4:50 am

    brilliant P-E thanks for clearing that up for me i will start googling cheers friend james
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    Post by jayacee on Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:37 pm

    ive a question relating to the gefechtshelm cover i notice the pics of the bundeswehr in afghanistan if you look closely at the helmets they seem to have have a plain cover fitted when i say plain i mean no elasticated scrim banding of any sort anybody know if this is a more modern version of the cover gary is showing or is it likely the banding has been carefully removed ,many thanks james
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    Post by saar-abzeichensammlung on Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:09 pm

    hello james,

    have you a picture from gefechtshelm cover ?
    let me see the cover.

    thanks from germany Alex
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    Post by jayacee on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:15 am

    hi alex here's a picture for you,and thanks for your interest james
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    Post by jayacee on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:41 pm

    alex did you have a look at the picture i cant seem to find any info about the non elasticated covers just plenty of pictures backing it up ,im now wondering if these are danish soldiers in afghanistan
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    Post by Easy Gee on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:24 pm

    jayacee wrote:alex did you have a look at the picture i cant seem to find any info about the non elasticated covers just plenty of pictures backing it up ,im now wondering if these are danish soldiers in afghanistan


    Interesting aspect regarding the covers James, not seen anything like it before, when you initially mentioned these covers sans foliage straps, I thought, maybe a German sqauddie had removed them, but in this ref pic you have supplied, they all have sans foliage straps???


    One of the guys is wearing what looks like a Flectarn flack vest, and I think I can just about make out the German national flag on the guy in the foreground.....Danish ???, they appear to be wearing what looks like ACH lids by the profile too...mystery.

    Where did you find this ref pic, and did it give any clues as to where and when the pic was shot?

    Good topic mate, let's hope some substantive info is shared Wink


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    Post by jayacee on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:16 pm

    hi gary here's another ref pic as you can see there all wearing the plain covers and as you say the seem to be wearing mich type lids so now im wondering if these are paratroopers wearing the m828 composite helmet the plot thickens thanks james
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    Post by saar-abzeichensammlung on Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:53 pm

    hello james,

    I beg your apology.
    I'm sorry that you had to wait.
    But I have inquired and searched.
    So, there is a desert camo cover!
    without foliage straps.
    I would not say officially.

    there exists still a cover in two colors.
    one page is FLECKTARN ond the orde is WÜSTENTARN.
    The FLECKTARN has belt, the WÜSTENTARN not
    watch this shop page : http://www.asmc.de/de/Bekleidung/Kopfbedeckung/Sonstiges/Helme-Zubehoer


    I hope I could help you

    thanks alex

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    Post by jayacee on Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:27 pm

    brilliant alex and thanks for getting back with this information so your thinking these covers are possible commercialy made, that site you linked was just what i was looking for ive been after some bundeswehr helmet nets for my stalhlhelms for a while now i just cant source any in the uk as for helmets i know a little i guess ive learned the hardway thanks again pal james

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    MyZone wrote:I found this one in my collection:

    Hooded Parka....I don't know what the proper name for it is.

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    That's a 'KSK' Einsatzkampfjacke in 3ftd, usually made by Scharrer issued to KSK and in Priv Purchase By Leo Kohler, not seen one by them before so that's a really nice find!

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