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    Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:55 pm

    Hi Guys.

    I got these pieces of kit recently, and need help to ID them.

    One suggestion, I have so far, is the Gas mask Haversack might be Saudi?????

    And I know the Saudi's used similar Ammo pouches,but I have already discounted Dutch issue ,any ideas guy's ???

    Any suggestions ( they might be Air-Softie ,sorry Arch Smile ) would be most welcome

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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:56 pm




    Rear of Haversack ( PLCE type fittings) Wink


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    Close up of PLCE type fittings Wink


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    Inside shot, BTW this is so close to a British S10,it unreal Wink


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    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:59 pm

    And now the Ammo pouches........


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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:01 pm




    Again PLCE fittings and a CQC stamp,which appears on all modern PLCE kit Question


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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:02 pm




    Small pockets on the side with Brass, pull the dot style snaps Wink


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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:04 pm




    Got a pair, Wink


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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:05 pm





    PULL THE DOT Wink




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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by nkomo on Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:54 pm

    Hmmmmmm.......I'm putting my guess with something Commonwealth. Could the three color pouches be Canadian or Australian? The six color pouch does look Saudi to me as well, but I have no evidence to back that claim.
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    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:50 pm

    nkomo wrote: Hmmmmmm.......I'm putting my guess with something Commonwealth. Could the three color pouches be Canadian or Australian? The six color pouch does look Saudi to me as well, but I have no evidence to back that claim.



    Thanks Arch.

    The Commonwealth aspect makes sense,I guess they use PLCE type fittings too!!

    I want these too be genuine so much, not because they cost much,because they didn't ,I just don't want them to be Air-Softie crap...if that makes sense.

    At the end of the day if they are some Air-softie junk,then no worries,they cost very little..and they will be chucked at the back of a cupboard,and forgotten about. But it would be cool, if they could be identified as genuine Middle east,or commonwealth kit.

    I guess I will need to do some research into Saudi/Common wealth issued kit,and see if I can ID the Gas mask Haversack, and Ammo Pouches.

    Cheers Mate, And do not fear if they turn out to be Air-soft crap,I will take them outside and burn them,not before emptying my bladder all over them lol!


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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by nkomo on Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:11 pm

    If I am not mistaken, Britian (sorry if that is not the correct term) made some 6-Color chemical suits for Kuwait. Possibly could be Kuwaiti as well.

    I do not think these are air-soft. They are too well made and appear to have military acceptance stamps on them.
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    Post by taucco on Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:58 am

    a fellow collectors has this one which seems to be fom the same family and the same doubts.
    would be Holland an option? Wasn't PLCE webbing made also for UAE troops? Or could it be just a quality aftermarket item.

    http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss33/smile81/foto-4.jpg

    http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss33/smile81/foto6-3.jpg

    http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss33/smile81/foto5-5.jpg

    http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss33/smile81/foto3-7.jpg
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    Post by Easy Gee on Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:54 pm

    nkomo wrote: If I am not mistaken, Britian (sorry if that is not the correct term) made some 6-Color chemical suits for Kuwait. Possibly could be Kuwaiti as well.

    I do not think these are air-soft. They are too well made and appear to have military acceptance stamps on them.
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    Cheers Arch, I was'nt aware Britain made six colour chem suits for Kuwait...but that's definetely sparked an interest in me Wink

    Maybe they are military issue ,I just need to ID them now....or it's gonna bug me, until I find out .... Wink


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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by Easy Gee on Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:01 pm

    taucco wrote:a fellow collectors has this one which seems to be fom the same family and the same doubts.
    would be Holland an option? Wasn't PLCE webbing made also for UAE troops? Or could it be just a quality aftermarket item.

    http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss33/smile81/foto-4.jpg

    http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss33/smile81/foto6-3.jpg

    http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss33/smile81/foto5-5.jpg

    http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss33/smile81/foto3-7.jpg


    Hi Taucco.

    Many.many thanks for the photos,my pouches have the same PLCE type fittings,as foto 5.5....I don't think they are Dutch as,a Dutch member on IACMC has said he's never seen such a thing in Holland.....But good tip I will look into UAE kit, as for them being aftermarket items I don't know, they appear to have a qaulity QMC stamp as per British PLCE, the mystery continues......Many thanks again for your excellent input Wink


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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by Ben on Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:09 pm

    I know I'm a bit late to this "ID party", but is it possible they are trial pieces of some sort, since they're built exactly like British PLCE and have the same quality stamp? Just my 2 cents, for what it's worth. Cool


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    Post by Easy Gee on Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:43 pm

    Thanks Ben.

    You're not to late at all,I feel there is no definite ID on this kit yet, but I'm glad to have some really cool pointers...more research is required I feel to truly ID them.

    The trial aspect is something I didn't really consider to be honest,so that's cool,as it will give me another excuse to search the net,on PLCE type webbing kit.

    When I first saw them I was puzzled ,as the Ammo pouches are so much like a combination of Alice/ PLCE issued kit....The S10 bag,is so identical to the Brit issued haversack it's scary.

    Wouldn't it be cool if they turned out to be ultra rare trial pieces.....yeah,right knowing my luck they're made in Taiwan for the rein-actors market Laughing



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    Post by Ben on Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:17 pm

    Well, whichever they are, I hope you are able to find out soon!


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    Re: Six colour Gas Mask Haversack and 3 colour Ammo pouches...ID help please

    Post by AndrewA74 on Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:10 am

    Easy Gee,
    Whatever they are, you can be sure of a few things:

    1) They aren't Airsoft. They are too used to be anything an airsofter would want.
    2) They aren't reenactor peices (why would a reenactor reenact something he didn't know what the gear was for?)
    3) They have been to a desert.

    I'm putting my money on Saudi....they look it.
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    Post by Easy Gee on Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:42 am

    Ben wrote:Well, whichever they are, I hope you are able to find out soon!




    Cheers Ben,me too mate,me too Wink


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    Post by Easy Gee on Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:46 am

    AndrewA74 wrote:Easy Gee,
    Whatever they are, you can be sure of a few things:

    1) They aren't Airsoft. They are too used to be anything an airsofter would want.
    2) They aren't reenactor peices (why would a reenactor reenact something he didn't know what the gear was for?)
    3) They have been to a desert.

    I'm putting my money on Saudi....they look it.
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    Thanks Andrew.

    The Saudi aspect makes sense,and they do appear to have some field use,any ideas where I might get some pictures/resources of Saudi issued Kit??


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    Post by nkomo on Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:08 am

    http://img697.imageshack.us/i/610xw.jpg/sr=1

    http://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.3481.1273602845!/image/11644281.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/11644281.jpg
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    Post by Easy Gee on Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:52 am

    nkomo wrote:http://img697.imageshack.us/i/610xw.jpg/sr=1

    http://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.3481.1273602845!/image/11644281.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/11644281.jpg



    Cool, Cheers Arch, your the Man Wink


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    Post by nkomo on Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:43 am

    Just found these on Ebay. United Arab Emirates used three color gear apparently.

    Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/UNITED-ARAB-EMIRATES-PLCE-POUCHES-PLCE-BACKPACK-DESERT-/150538603566?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230ccccc2e
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    Post by Easy Gee on Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:39 am

    nkomo wrote:Just found these on Ebay. United Arab Emirates used three color gear apparently.

    Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/UNITED-ARAB-EMIRATES-PLCE-POUCHES-PLCE-BACKPACK-DESERT-/150538603566?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230ccccc2e



    Cool,nice one Arch!

    Now this is getting interesting,as this proves that the UAE use PLCE webbing kit,so my Ammo pouches with PLCE attachments, are more than likely UAE issued kit..which is great news. Maybe the S10 haversack is UAE issue too..most informative research Arch ,thanks a lot..... Very Happy


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    Post by rob8066 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:45 am

    Hi.

    The ammo pouch is marked 'cqc' products so they are a copy made for the trade market.

    Does the respirator pouch have any labels inside?
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    Post by Easy Gee on Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:35 pm

    rob8066 wrote:Hi.

    The ammo pouch is marked 'cqc' products so they are a copy made for the trade market.

    Does the respirator pouch have any labels inside?



    Rob,that's very interesting,thanks for sharing this info,sadly there are no labels in any of it,hence the difficulties in ID'ing this kit.

    I will do some research on the CQC aspect,cheers Mate ,nice one Wink


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    Post by Recon369 on Tue May 01, 2012 5:33 pm

    Canada only ever used CADPAT and limited use of reverse DPM and has never issued PLCE.
    Australia has followed US webbing designs since 1962 and use AUSCAM.
    Holland uses UK DPM pattern & US 3 colour desert pattern.
    When the US developed 3 colour at the end of 1st Gulf War they gave 6 colour to Kuwait as part of their re-equiping.
    Irag received 6 colour Uniforms as part of their re-equiping.


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    Post by Recon369 on Tue May 01, 2012 6:42 pm

    sorry about the mistake Iraq also received 6 colour
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    Post by Easy Gee on Sun May 06, 2012 3:18 pm

    Thanks for this invaluable information Recon Smile


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